Mauer and Doumit you already know. All UZR (ultimate zone rating) calculations are provided courtesy of Mitchel Lichtman. And for me, the more interesting part involves Doumit, and the implications of the possibility he might not really catch anymore. The Twins turned what didn’t matter to them into a possible back-of-the-rotation starter, who would be cheap for years. On that basis alone, he’s a good get for a Twins team just looking to shed Doumit’s salary. Used to be Doumit was something of a stathead favorite, because he could get on base and hit for power and swing from both sides while playing catcher. Paul Maholm, Ian Snell, and Zach Duke are also among the biggest losers, and they were the pitchers with the most innings for the Pirates in 2008, when Doumit had a -55 Def score. All Win Expectancy, Leverage Index, Run Expectancy, and Fans Scouting Report data licenced from TangoTiger.com. He was worth $8 million in value in 2011, according to FanGraphs' WAR rating. We have limited PITCHf/x data going all the way back to 2007. Gilmartin has an underwhelming fastball but a fine change and a useful curve, or slider, depending on the day. All such investigations turn up Doumit as the worst. Doumit’s no defender, no matter where you put him, but if the Braves play this right, Doumit won’t see the field too much. The Formula. Doumit might not be even a semi-regular backstop anymore, and then if he’s still around in 2015, it’s unlikely his role would be re-expanded. The Twins sent to the Braves one Ryan Doumit, in the last year of his contract.The Braves sent to the Twins one Sean Gilmartin, 23 years old and still in the minors.Doumit is expected to fill some kind of role on Atlantaâs bench. Look no further than the player most harshly impacted by the inclusion of framing, Ryan Doumit. by Retrosheet. Correia was also a teammate of Doumit ⦠You remember Doumit, right? And the guys closest to him have pretty small samples of data. Playing time is a major concern in 2014 and thereâs a lot of risk and reward in his profile. Become a Member No Thanks Already a member? Below the surface, it’s a little bit more so. There was what seems like a relatively unremarkable trade today, that went down between the Braves and the Twins. FanGraphsâ new leaderboard shows the best and worst 60-game stretches ever. Ryan Doumit. So, Doumit isn't 32.5 runs worse than average; he's 32.5 runs worse than the other Pirates' catchers, who are 10.2 runs above average. Interestingly, the line on Gilmartin is that he pounds the zone but doesn’t miss enough bats. FanGraphs Membership. and play-by-play data provided by Sports Info Solutions. Gilmartin might be a Twins starting rotation candidate down the road. FanGraphs Membership. Since then, 169 different catchers have caught at least 1,000 called pitches that the cameras recorded. by Handedness, 1999 June Amateur Draft - Round: 2, Pick: 8, Overall: 59, Team: Pittsburgh Pirates. To be baseball’s worst pitch-framer, it feels like you need to reach a certain playing-time threshold. Come fan with us. The range between best and worse, then, is roughly nine wins. His defense was that bad. Fryer and Herrman arenât household names, but they both have interesting qualities. As is, Doumit might be done catching much, and that would be in everyone’s best interests. Major League and Minor League Baseball data provided by Major League Baseball. I have some bad news for Ryan Doumit. Vance Worley once again didn't have his best stuff, but Justin Morneau and Ryan Doumit provided enough offense to get Worley his first victory as a ⦠Ryan Doumit scoffs at those who utilize all of the buttons on their jerseys. Admins may or may not choose to remove the comment or block the author. Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. In 2011, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. After splitting time with Doumit down the stretch in 2010, Snyder was on the disabled list for a significant portion of 2011, after which the team declined his $6,750,000 option for 2012. He's also hit quite a few home runs this season. Doumit is expected to fill some kind of role on Atlanta’s bench. References ^ and play-by-play data provided by Sports Info Solutions. Last year was his worst at the plate since 2009, but there’s still some thump in the bat, and the Braves wanted to upgrade the offense on their bench. He’s one of them prepared, “polished” types, as opposed to an overpowering type. Batters and BABIP. And please don't worry, your report will be anonymous. So his time should be limited back there, after having not caught fewer than 370 innings since 2007. I doubt that Doumit will catch literally zero innings with the Braves, but he’ll serve as a third catcher, corner substitute, and pinch-hitter. Perhaps it’ll be Josmil Pinto, who rated poorly as a rookie. To touch on the players real quick: you know the story with Doumit. Results: The Most Ineffable and the Least Ineffable Qualified Position Players in Baseball Since 2011 Ryan Doumitâs battled a slew of injuries since he began his professional career with the Pirates as a second round pick in 1999. At the same time this means their offensive status is changing with it, and I would assume that will swing back in the future. Updated: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 3:20 AM ET, Park Factors Play-by-play data prior to 2002 was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted The two players that have a worse fWAR are Bill Bergen and Gus Weyhing, neither managed a career wRC+ over 30. Here are the worst pitch-framers, by added strikes per game: Doumit’s the worst, by half a call a game. We might have reached the end of the era of Ryan Doumit being baseball’s worst pitch-framer, among catchers who catch. In 2008 Doumit put it all together and appeared in a career high 116 games and registered 465 at-bats for the Pirates. What’s remarkable is that Jeff Sullivan, in back-to-back articles, posted: – A story about the possible beginning of an era, with Joaquin Benoit going to the Padres to be their best and highest-paid reliever used for the highest-leverage situations, but not the closer. If Ryan Doumit will no longer be baseball’s worst regular or semi-regular pitch-framer, some other catcher will be baseball’s worst regular or semi-regular pitch-framer. Perfectly understandable, ordinary trade that does very little to capture the imagination. Itâs possible that a borderline Hall of Famer would be a nonstarter if their bad framing was taken into account. Doumit was previously a 5.4 career fWAR player, as he was an average hitter with bad defense before framing. A look at Ryan Doumit for week 12 of the 2012 fantasy baseball season. Something nothing more than statistical, but then numbers are so much of everything. Including Pinto, the Twins have five catchers on the 40 man roster including Joe Mauer, Ryan Doumit, Eric Fryer, and Chris Herrmann. In 2010, he was baseball’s sixth-worst pitch-framer. The Twins sent to the Braves one Ryan Doumit, in the last year of his contract. Ryan Doumit AVG comparison graphs for Major League baseball. He was mentioned in each of Baseball Americaâs first prospect handbooks until he lost prospect eligibility in 2005. If he’d had his career just a little bit earlier, we never would’ve known about the framing, and we would’ve continued to consider him underrated. On November 18, 2011, Doumit agreed to a one-year, $3 million deal with the Minnesota Twins. Ryan Doumit 2011: -6. If you set a minimum anywhere higher than Hester’s 5,094, then it goes right from Doumit to Johnson, a full call a game better. In a lot of ways, Ryan Doumit encapsulates the 2014 Braves well. In 2013, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. Whatever you make of him, Gilmartin has a very low ceiling, and he struggles to crack 90 miles per hour. Doumit only threw out 11 base runners last season, allowing 79 steals in 90 attempts. So yes, this was the Pirates actually acquiring a player with a track record, significant cash remaining on his deal, and at a position of needâRyan Doumit was out at the time. Doumit didn't catch on with a team this offseason and remains a free agent. Perhaps it’ll be Hester, if he ever returns. All Win Expectancy, Leverage Index, Run Expectancy, and Fans Scouting Report data licenced from TangoTiger.com. In 2012, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. Gift a Membership. Say this for Ryan Doumit — over the course of his career, he’s captured a lot of Internet attention. 2021 600 PA / 200 IP Projections Steamer600. That's pretty horrible and is a big reason why his Fielding Runs (according to FanGraphs) plummeted to ⦠He played the first seven years of his career for the Pittsburgh Pirates, then two for the Minnesota Twins, and one for the Atlanta Braves . Atlanta Braves ( 2014) Ryan Matthew Doumit (born April 3, 1981) is an American former professional baseball catcher in Major League Baseball (MLB). Leader: Ryan Doumit by an impossibly large, probably false margin. Former Pirates catcher Ryan Doumit now believes his playing career is over, Jon Heyman tweets. Doumit’s caught nearly 32,000 called pitches. Laggard: Disgraced Person and Former Boyfriend Ryan Braun. He has the third worst fWAR of all time at -8.6. Website admin will know that you reported it. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not. It depends on how Doumit ends up being utilized by the Braves, but there’s a chance this could mark the end of an era, beyond just the era of Doumit playing for Minnesota. Just as he was cult-famous before, he’s cult-famous today, for far less flattering reasons. Support FanGraphs. All major league baseball data including pitch type, velocity, batted ball location, [8] On June 29, 2012, The Twins signed catcher Ryan Doumit to a two-year extension through the 2014 season. Ryan Doumit ⦠2021 600 PA / 200 IP Projections Steamer600. Jeff Karstens was also a Doumit-era Pirate pitcher. Iâll also link to a ranking for 2013 based on the work in the article. Doumit meant nothing to them; Gilmartin will probably never mean anything to them, but there is a chance. The next closest is another former Pirates catcher, Jason Kendall at -36.5 in 2000, but clearly he is nearly 20 runs better than 2008 Ryan Doumit. Play-by-play data prior to 2002 was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted In 2009, he was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. Draft: Drafted by the Pittsburgh Pirates in the 2nd round of the 1999 MLB June Amateur Draft from Moses Lake HS (Moses Lake, WA). Since the Pittsburgh Pirates have been around for nearly 150 years, there are bound to be interesting tidbits in their history. ⦠The switch-hitter was acquired in December of 2013 to serve as the team's top bench bat ⦠It seemed like Doumit was supremely valuable, and perhaps undervalued by the Pirates while they had him. Support FanGraphs. It’s a competitive team maybe exchanging a little longer-term value for a little shorter-term value, and it’s a rebuilding team doing the opposite of that. That move was followed by the addition of Barajas. He inherited Ryan Doumit, then tried to upgrade to Chris Snyder. You can flag a comment by clicking its flag icon. At least, according to pitch-framing research, which does seem to be capturing a real thing. It’s interesting to see Gilmartin get dealt for so little so soon after being drafted so high by so capable an organization. I have described them as like or not. In 2008, setting a minimum of 2,000 called pitches caught, Doumit was baseball’s worst pitch-framer. Page 3 of 4 - Ryan Doumit Reinforces Mauers Value at Catcher - posted in Minnesota Twins Talk: So far, I have used only data in reference to any player. With Doumit, it was always about swapping defense for offense, but pitch-framing research revealed Doumit as the bad kind of outlier. High School: Moses Lake HS (Moses Lake, WA) Sign In. Sean Dolinar | FanGraphs: FanGraphs introduced a new tool just in time for the upcoming season. And that means, if Doumit gives up his spot, someone else will take his place. 2021 Updated In-Season Projections SB Nation is the largest independent sports media brand, consisting of SBNation.com, MMAFighting.com and over 300 fan-centric team communities. Followed by Michael Young and Delmon Young, who are not related. All UZR (ultimate zone rating) calculations are provided courtesy of Mitchel Lichtman. Fangraphs adds catcher framing data - posted in Other Baseball: In a move that that was inevitable but a long time coming, ... Ryan Doumit was even worse than we probably remember . Perhaps it’ll be somebody else. So, two interesting developments on one of the slowest Hot Stove days in weeks. The extension is worth $7 million, and Doumit will make $3.5 million per year in '13 and '14. The formula is: Donât worry about it. In a sense, he’s a classic fit for the Twins organization, but this is still a fine roll of the dice considering what went away in exchange. Donate to FanGraphs. Ryan Doumit has proven himself to be one terrible pitch-framer, at least relative to the rest of the regular or semi-regular pitch-framers. Gift a Membership. And if that turns out to be the case, there’ll be an available statistical crown that nobody should want to fight for. He’s always been a pretty reasonable hitter, and he could have some years left in that bat. It also makes sense, given what Gilmartin apparently is. In theory, he can catch and also play a few other positions, and he’s got a decent amount of power. He’s a 32-year-old switch-hitter who’s versatile on paper. Not only will Doumit be available — his presence will free up Evan Gattis to pinch-hit on days he’s not catching, since Gerald Laird is also around and under contract. Help Support FanGraphs. Prior to that he was worth a combined $5.4 million in value between 2009-10. Doumit⦠FanGraphs | Jeff Sullivan: ... Ryan Doumit isnât coming back. He’ll probably still be bad when he does catch, but if he doesn’t catch much, it doesn’t matter. Sign In. I decided to try to dig a little more into Ryan Doumit's 2008 season to try to get a handle on whether it's plausible that he cost the Pirates 57.8 runs, as Fangraphs says. Major League and Minor League Baseball data provided by Major League Baseball. FanGraphs Store. This is why baseball never seems to run out of angles to analyze. Log In. There might be something buried here, though, beneath the immediate layers. That player presumably won’t score as poorly as Doumit has, but one wonders who’ll emerge, particularly with the game more aware of framing research than ever. Much like Mauer, Willingham and to a lesser extent, Morneau, Ryan Doumit is an oft-injured player who was far healthier than usual last year. He’s gotten blasted so far in Triple-A, and the lefty went through some shoulder things this past season, but what the Braves saw in him is still in there somewhere. Doumitâs career wRC+ is 101. Without Doumit, the race would be wide open. Then we learned more about defense, and catcher defense, and Ryan Doumit as a catcher, specifically. With Doumit, no one else really ever stood much of a chance. Updated: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 3:20 AM ET, Park Factors Positions: Catcher, Rightfielder and First Baseman Bats: Both ⢠Throws: Right 6-1, 220lb (185cm, 99kg) Born: April 3, 1981 in Moses Lake, WA us. The Braves sent to the Twins one Sean Gilmartin, 23 years old and still in the minors. Donate to FanGraphs. It was Doumitâs 72nd career homer, ... which is up from his season average of 86.6 mph on FanGraphs.com. The strike zone has a way of looking smaller in Ryan Doumit’s hands. 2021 Updated In-Season Projections The interesting thing about Gilmartin is that he was a first-round draft pick as recently as 2011, by these same Braves. He followed that by adding Martin, then added Cervelli, and had Elias Diaz and Jacob Stallings in the system, which helped in 2018 and 2020. Thereâs something more than coincidence here. All subsequent data is courtesy of research by Matthew Carruth. All major league baseball data including pitch type, velocity, batted ball location, FanGraphs grades anything +15 or better on the DRS scale as âGold Glove Caliberâ. He might never get much time above the level he currently occupies. These 10 stats fit that bill - Page 8 Ryan Doumit is actually one of the worst players of all time. by Handedness, Trading Ryan Doumit and the Possible End of an Era, Padres Support Closer With Free-Agent Closer, Effectively Wild Episode 352: The Day in Transactions, Ryan Doumit has been, easily, the worst pitch-framer in baseball, Ryan Doumit has been traded, and might just about stop catching. The article below goes through my methodology for determining the auction value of each player in all three ottoneu formats (with a particular focus on the ottoneu FanGraphs Points scoring system, the linear-weights-based setup which is the most popular). He was a Pirate mainstay during the twilight years of the Bucsâ losing streak and a ⦠On the surface, the trade is mildly interesting. Four hitters, including historically terrible pitch framer Ryan Doumit, have managed a WAR of -2.5 WAR or worse over a 60-game stretch. While Doumit’s done good things at the plate as a catcher, he’s effectively hemorrhaged runs behind it. – A story about the possible end of an era, with Ryan Doumit’s likely transition to PH/backup corner OF/emergency C signalling the end of ignoring framing skills in choosing your starting or backup catcher. There was what seems like a relatively unremarkable trade today, that went down between the Braves and the Twins. Ryan Doumit career batting statistics for Major League, Minor League, and postseason baseball. Last year, he posted a worse-than-average strike rate yet a better-than-average contact rate. One call is estimated to be worth about 0.13 runs. by Retrosheet.
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